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Poll :: ARE POSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN
BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY?
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YES
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MAYBE
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Total Votes : 20
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villaliberty
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ARE POSSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK
DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY? - ¿SON POSIBLE GENES RED NOSE
EN UN APBT NEGRO COMO MIDNIGHT COWBOY?
CARVER'S (DAVIS)
“MIDNIGHT COWBOY”
http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy..html (English versión)
http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy.html (Versión en Español)
(En ESPAÑOL debajo)
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snootybulldoggs wrote:
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For
the most part Iwas thinking
the samething.....Red Midnightcowboy dogs hunh? Scratching my head.Lol
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Dear friend, sometimes, the lack of experience in certain
cases can lead to errors. The color Red Nose in the
American Pit Bull Terrier, is
widespread evidence that can come perfectly from the
black color and easier than some people think. lol
I add you three examples for your easy
understanding in this question:
1) Example
From the next Poll, you'll better understand it:
[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents? http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
2) Example
The RED KARINA parents are black
colour:
“RED KARINA” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=327021
“RED KARINA” Online Pedigree: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=352023
3) Example
@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX
dogs, being
that they
all are Tudor's
"DIBO" family and
"DIBO" was buckskin color? - The
HENRY´s Dogs:
http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
@ “THE BLACKS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
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ESPAÑOL
Estimado amigo, en algunas ocasiones, la falta de
experiencia en ciertos asuntos puede llevarnos a errores.
El color Red Nose en los
American Pit Bull Terrier, está
más que demostrado que puede venir perfectamente del
color negro y más fácil de lo que algunos piensan. Lol
Te adjunto tres ejemplos para tu fácil
entendimiento en este asunto:
1) Ejemplo
Desde la siguiente encuesta (Poll),
podrás comprender mejor:
[ Poll
] chocolate from two black nose parents?
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
2) Ejemplo
Los padres de RED KARINA son de color negro:
“RED KARINA” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=es&criterio=327021
“RED KARINA” Online Pedigree: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=352023
3) Ejemplo
@ ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a los perros ELI /
CARVER / BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos ellos son de la
familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y
este era de color buckskin? -
LOS PERROS DE HENRY: http://www.fiapbt.net/negro.html
@ “LOS NEGROS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/losnegros.html
Grettings - Saludos
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional
military of the
earth Army
between 1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse
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hellboy377
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 Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:23 am
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I'll I know is chocolate is a
recessive of black. Not red.
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lastman
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:38 am
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Her grandsire has a red nose so
she doesnt count
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jjdb30
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:43 pm
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You have a very accurate ped marco.
The only thing you need to fix is Williams Cyclone 2xw is
the litter mate brother to Ferguson ch
centipede. Yes the gene is there in cowboy any body who tells you different don't know anything about genetics. Midnight cowboy is a Aa gene type.
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villaliberty
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mauricecarver wrote:
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jajajajajajajajajajajajaja.....,
son you got to have a few red ones in the pedigree to
get all red choco from a
litter.
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Again with the same subject????? Lol,
lol.
Sometimes, the lack
of experience in some fans can lead to big
errors. The color Red Nose in the American Pit Bull Terrier, is scientifically proven that can come perfectly from the black color and very
much easier than some people think. lol.
From the next Poll, I believe that you'll better
understand it. Good luck, lol:
[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents? : http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER /
BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's
"DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin
color? - The HENRY´s Dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
@ “THE BLACKS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
Other example
My "RED PIT" (Red Nose) great-grandson and great
great-grandson of MIDNIGHT
COWBOY, was the result of the stud of
two good blacks dogs in the early of the year 1994
(Arnold X Lady):
"RED PIT" FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=80447
"RED PIT" Online Pedigree:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=80447
Greetings
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT
– IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can
acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
which we live.”
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villaliberty
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jjdb30 wrote:
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Yes
the gene is there in cowboy any body
who tells you different don't
know anything about genetics. Midnight cowboy is a Aa gene type.
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I am agree
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villaliberty
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SmileWiper wrote:
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Rednose is recessive, so it
can be in the great-great-great-grandparents ... and
still be passed on, unobtrusively, with no dogs being rednose for multiple generations.
So, just because a dog is black doesn't mean it is an
all-black-dominant dog (AA) ... in fact MOST black dogs
are Aa and are carrying (and pass) the rednose gene.
This means, you can have 2, 3, 4, 5-generations of Aa
black dogs, each having (and passing) the rednose (a) gene, though no
dogs physically express the gene.
The very fact the rednose
gene is recessive means YOU CAN'T SEE IT ... unless
it's on BOTH sides of the pedigree. This means you can
have multiple generations of black (Aa) dogs, that never show a rednose pup, unless one pup's genes
get shuffled to aa, which means it took the recessive rednose gene from both
sides, and thus is a rednose
pup.
Chocolate is a
derivative of black ...
So, yes, two black (Aa) dogs most definitely can throw
a chocolate/rednose pup 
In fact, a lot of times, what people "call" a
black dog is actually a seal dog
Jack
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I am agree
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Gringo
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:39 am
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I've never seen a red cowboy
dog.......
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villaliberty
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Gringo wrote:
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I've
never seen a red cowboy dog.......
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Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.
If someone does not see something specific, does not mean
it does not exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be
hidden to the public and be a secret for the breeder, how
a few breeders have recognized with the pass of time...
For me, the color is not important. Me in particular, in
my breeding I have never sought, nor set nor fix
characters by color or phenotype. For me the main and
most important in the animal, is it a good dog in its
various aspects regardless of color or physical structure
posses, since to fix the
characters of the breeding alone for the phenotype of
animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But that is
another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.
Greetings and Thank you.
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT
– IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can
acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
which we live.”
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snootybulldoggs
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:47 am
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Gringo wrote:
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I've
never seen a red cowboy dog.......
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These Geneticists in here
believe different All I know is We've been breeding the
Thurmond Rocky II strain for 20+ and even bred to buckskin
snooty and boomerang hell a red fawn chinaman
males always BLACK!!!!! Now our male bred to those same
color female will throw a couple in mom's Honor.....Now
living in a world Grand Designed to change anything is
possible and it shole makes me
scratch my head!!!! You Gentlemen Keep'em HONEST!!!!
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villaliberty
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One of the secrets best
kept by the few breeders who knew in that time like Mr.
Jerry Clemmons and others, was that if you breed a black
family from English dogs, if any of their litters come
out a puppy Red Nose, save it the best possible in your
yard without hesitation, for use it like reproducer in
your American Pit Bull Terrier family for being a stud
dog with all guarantees of success in your breeding plan.
This circumstance could be it has something to do with all this subject, I do not know...
ESPAÑOL
Uno de los secretos mejor guardados por los pocos
criadores de la época que lo conocían como fue Mr. Jerry Clemmons y otros, consistía en que si
criabas una familia de negros provenientes de perros
ingleses, si en alguna de sus camadas saliera un cachorro
Red Nose lo guardaras lo mejor
posible en tu yarda sin dudarlo, para utilizarlo como
reproductor en tu familia de American Pit
Bull Terrier por tratarse de un semental prácticamente
con todas las garantías de éxito en tu plan de crianza.
Esta circunstancia pudiera ser que tenga algo que ver en
todo este asunto, no lo se...
Mariano Peinado
– FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can
acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
which we live.”
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Eli4Life
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:05 pm
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Lets not forget there is some carver
in that pup and we all know carver and his breeding tactics back
then......LOL I checked yes, If there is a red gen anywhere in that ped, it
is possible to throw one here and there....And That would be what you call
a throw back.....for sure
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villaliberty
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Eli4Life wrote:
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Lets not forget there is some carver in that pup and we all know
carver and his breeding tactics back then......LOL I checked yes, If
there is a red gen anywhere in that ped, it is possible to throw one here
and there....And That would be what you call a throw back.....for sure
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Dear friend, you say, That we all know carver and his breeding tactics back then? Lol, I suggest to you, best speak
for yourself and not on the lips of everyone else. I think you are like most
who claim to know about Carver and after it again and again demonstrated
that they knew nothing at all...
Your afirmation against Carver is more of the same, hypotheses, assumptions
and hypotheses, always in the same way for a few. That if I believe, that
if I would swear, that if rumors, that if such dog is like another and like
is similar already must has to be its father, blah blah blah. The same old
story but with different words, that is, more of the same since Carver died
in 1979 until nowadays and his death was exploited by a few speaking lies
to benefit their businesses of sell dogs.
Half-truths??? It does not take very intelligent to observe it. The
Half-truths are worst that the full lies.
In the next link starting to read from the chapter entitled "HENRY
THE DOGS" (pag 1), you can see more information about a few unjust
lies about Carver and his dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/thereadoftheyear.htm or http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=236707
You are talking subjects that are different to this thread or Poll. Please,
not exit the main thread of the Poll. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between 1981 and 1985, with
the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire in: FIAPBT
FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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to allow evil and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in which
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Noclist2
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:49 am
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1) I spoke to ole school dog men
that seen that line of dog, and never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any
other color than what was BEHIND them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose
hound UNLESS it was ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a
particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like the
family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound.... JMO
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villaliberty
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Noclist2 wrote:
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1) I spoke to ole school dog men that seen that line of dog, and
never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any other color than what was BEHIND
them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose hound UNLESS it was ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a
particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like
the family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound.... JMO
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Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.
If someone does not see something specific, does not mean it does not
exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be hidden to the public and be a
secret for the breeder, how a few breeders have recognized with the pass of
time...
For me, color is not important. For me the main and most important in the
animal, is it a good dog in its various aspects regardless of color or
physical structure posses, since to fix the characters of the breeding
alone for the phenotype of animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But
that is another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.
I come to remember the subject main thread of the Poll and it is: ARE
POSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY?.
Greetings and Thank you very much.
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between 1981 and 1985, with
the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire in: FIAPBT
FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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“In honour to the truth and the right, I think we should not close our eyes
to allow evil and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in which
we live.”
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villaliberty
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One of the secrets best kept
by the few breeders who knew in that time like Mr. Jerry Clemmons and
others, was that if you breed a black family from English dogs, if any of
their litters come out a puppy Red Nose, save it the best possible in your
yard without hesitation, for use it like reproducer in your American Pit
Bull Terrier family for being a stud dog with all guarantees of success in
your breeding plan. This circumstance could be it has something to do with
all this subject, I do not know...
ESPAÑOL
Uno de los secretos mejor guardados por los pocos criadores de la
época que lo conocían como fue Mr. Jerry Clemmons y otros, consistía en que
si criabas una familia de negros provenientes de perros ingleses, si en
alguna de sus camadas saliera un cachorro Red Nose lo guardaras lo mejor
posible en tu yarda sin dudarlo, para utilizarlo como reproductor en tu
familia de American Pit Bull Terrier por tratarse de un semental
prácticamente con todas las garantías de éxito en tu plan de crianza. Esta
circunstancia pudiera ser que tenga algo que ver en todo este asunto, no lo
se...
Mariano
Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between 1981 and 1985, with
the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire in: FIAPBT
FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
________________
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“In honour to the truth and the right, I think we should not close our eyes
to allow evil and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in which
we live.”
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Noclist2
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:59 pm
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villaliberty wrote:
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Noclist2 wrote:
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1) I spoke to ole school dog men that seen that line of dog, and
never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any other color than what was
BEHIND them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose hound UNLESS it was
ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a
particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like
the family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound.... JMO
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Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.
If someone does not see something specific, does not mean it does not
exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be hidden to the public and be
a secret for the breeder, how a few breeders have recognized with the
pass of time...
For me, color is not important. For me the main and most important in the
animal, is it a good dog in its various aspects regardless of color or
physical structure posses, since to fix the characters of the breeding
alone for the phenotype of animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But
that is another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.
I come to remember the subject main thread of the Poll and it is: ARE
POSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY?.
Greetings and Thank you very much.
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between 1981 and 1985,
with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire in: FIAPBT
FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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“In honour to the truth and the right, I think we should not close our
eyes to allow evil and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society
in which we live.”
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color is only important in association with genetics....... you expect
heavy inbreeding to lock into a type and look....behavior
too...style,traits....
Again....heavy Eli, I expect a lot...but not chocolate/red nose hounds.....
JMO
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lastman
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:42 am
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Me and my partners were having a heated
discussion the other day and they said i didnt know shit because i hadnt
bred enuff animals and they have (so fuck what science has to say). But
this is the question can two black nose dogs FROM black nose parents have
chocolate (or liver) dogs with a "red" nose? I know two black
nose dogs can have chocolate dogs if one of THEIR parents are chocolate so
thats not in debate
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Beautiful pups and bred very nice!
Good luck with them!
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villaliberty
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EndGame wrote:
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Beautiful pups and bred very nice! Good luck with them!
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Thank you very much for your kind words and for your good wishes.
Mariano
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monkey
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We're does the red and chocalet
red noses come from?
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monkey
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We're does the red and chocalet
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villaliberty
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monkey wrote:
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We're does the red and chocalet red noses come from?
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(En ESPAÑOL debajo)
Although the parents of the puppies "COWBOY 4" and "LADY
CARVER 2" are the colour black, inside its genetics own Red Nose
genes, being this the reason why Red Nose puppies have come out even
being its dads of colour black .
This situation usually happens sometimes with dogs that are well laden
blood HENRY X DIBO. This same issue already came me up with my litter of
my RED PIT in 1994.
This same circumstance, get dogs Red Nose of parents with origin of
Blacks and blood HENRY X DIBO, a few of the best breeders of all time
kept it in SECRET a long time, since the results obtained from those Red
Nose in reproduction, them can not obtain it otherwise and those old
timers not want that other breeders will learn it.
Info: Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs,
being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and
"DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
Grettings,
Mariano Peinado
For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire in: FIAPBT
FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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ESPAÑOL
Aunque los papás de los cachorros “COWBOY 4” y “LADY CARVER 2” son de
color negro, en el interior de su genética poseen genes Red Nose, siendo
esta la razón del porque han salidos cachorros Red Nose aun siendo los
papás de color negro.
Esta circunstancia suele ocurrir en algunas ocasiones con
los perros que están bien cargados de la sangre HENRY X DIBO. Esto mismo
ya me ocurrió con la camada de mi RED PIT en el año 1994.
Esta misma circunstancia, la de obtener perros Red Nose de padres con
procedencia de Los negros y de la sangre HENRY X DIBO, unos pocos de los
mejores criadores de todos los tiempos lo mantuvieron en SECRETO durante
mucho tiempo, ya que los resultados que obtenían de aquellos Red Nose en
la reproducción, no lo conseguían de otra manera y no deseaban que otros
criadores lo aprendieran.
Info: ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a los perros ELI / CARVER /
BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos ellos son de la familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y
este era de color buckskin? - LOS PERROS DE HENRY http://www.fiapbt.net/negro.html
Un saludo,
Mariano Peinado
PD. Para mayor información diversa que puedas necesitar, puedes
adquirirla en, FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall
-- www.fiapbt.net --
www.villaliberty.org/informacion.html
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Chocolate line bred Cowboy dogs???
Ronnie Hyde hung papers all over those things. They look like Norrod Iron
Line OFRN LOLOLOL
GTFOH with that!!!!! LMAO
Midnight Cowboy
Bullyson
Eli black dog
Smiling Jack black dog
Candy black dog
its ok if a true red pops up once in a while but not the average.
but these and that cover dog are chocolate OFRN blood pouring thru their
veins, Stevie wonder could see that.
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monkey
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:28 am
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Red, red nose. And a chocolate
liver nose?. R gang had only one red red nose on his yard and that was
his sons dog
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marrero
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:55 am
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Good dogs Mariano...
Enhorabuena!!!!!
What's wrong with red nose (chocolate) dogs come from black dogs??
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butmunch
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Hey, beautiful pups. Both look
happy and well taken care of. That's more important than the ped!!
Congrats friend keep up the good work..!
50.
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villaliberty
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villaliberty
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butmunch wrote:
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Hey, beautiful pups. Both look happy and well taken care of.
That's more important than the ped!!
Congrats friend keep up the good work..!
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Thank you very much my friend for your kind words.
Take care,
Mariano
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villaliberty
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marrero wrote:
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Good dogs Mariano... Enhorabuena!!!!!
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Thank you very much Juan Miguel for your kind words, your words to me are
very important because you yes know very well my dogs and you yes know
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marrero wrote:
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What's wrong with red nose (chocolate) dogs come from black dogs??
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There is nothing wrong with the Red Nose dogs coming from black dogs, I
think that you already know very well what happens when sometimes some people
coming talking gossip...
Take care my friend,
Mariano
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ESPAÑOL
Muchas gracias Juan Miguel por tus amables palabras, para mi son muy
importantes por que tu sí que conoces muy bien mis perros y de donde
vienen
No hay nada erróneo con los perros Red Nose que vienen de perros negros,
creo que tu ya sabes bien lo que ocurre cuando en algunas ocasiones
algunos vienen hablando chismes ...
Cuídate amigo mío,
Mariano
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mauricecarver wrote:
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Chocolate line bred Cowboy dogs??? Ronnie Hyde hung papers all
over those things. They look like Norrod Iron Line OFRN LOLOLOL
GTFOH with that!!!!! LMAO
Midnight Cowboy
Bullyson
Eli black dog
Smiling Jack black dog
Candy black dog
its ok if a true red pops up once in a while but not the average.
but these and that cover dog are chocolate OFRN blood pouring thru
their veins, Stevie wonder could see that.
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lmao well that can't be as much hating this guy
does on the registry I.M. supports.
I'm surprise he knows anything about OFRN or pit dogs. He is just a pet owner.
fancier
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Would you be willing to sell one
of those and if so how much
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I present to you my two new little
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villaliberty
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Dear friend,
I am very thankful to you for to contact with us and for
your interest in my work and my dogs.
For the puppie security, I don´t send puppies out Spain,
sorry. We do not ship puppies outside Spain because if in
an unfortunate time for the puppy during their trip, can
be very serious or even fatal. If this possibility
occurred with the puppy traveling with its owner would be
safe without problems. Then if you are interesting in the
puppie, you must to pick up the puppie in Villa Liberty
kennels, the travel is easy to do. We are located in
Madrid, Spain and the name of the International airport of
Madrid is "Barajas". Villa Liberty kennels is
located near of "Barajas".
VILLA LIBERTY rejected those clients, who considers non
responsible at the time of becoming position of the life
for an animal. Our puppies will not be sold for illegal
intentions.
Grettings and thank you,
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can
acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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NORMALIZE within the society in which we live.”
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Danger
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You should know greenhorn. As been told anytime you want
to find out about real pit dogs and the real OFRN, give
him a call and make it so.
Don't try to make your legacy with being an a show club with ADBA or writing
books, come into the real of the
American Pit Dogs.....
fancier
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villaliberty
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Danger wrote:
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You should know greenhorn. As been told anytime you want
to find out about real pit dogs and the real OFRN, give
him a call and make it so.
Don't try to make your legacy with being an a show club with ADBA or writing
books, come into the real of
the American Pit Dogs.....
fancier
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You are not near to be one of my role models of people to
follow in this life. Therefore, save yourself
to tell me what I must have to do or what I have not to do
in my life.
I saw some of your posts on this cyber place and in other
places since much time ago. Sadly your cocky and bad
attitude that you showed with some people in those places,
is why I'm not interested in the least to know nothing about
you, nor to know nothing about your business with your
dogs and nor to know nothing about your business with your
“registry” of dogs, because for a GREENHORN and PET OWNER
like me, according to your words to me, lol, I aspire to others very different
claims, with people with better reputation and better
attitude with the people, with better education and with
better thoughts for people and for himself, of course. Buddha
said: “What you think, you become”
Already for me all this subject with you, is very boring
and it's a waste of time and I do not wish to waste
another second of my time to answer your unfortunate
provocations.
Have a nice day and a nice life. Good luck!!!
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT
– IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can
acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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“In honour to the truth and the
right, I think we should not close our eyes to allow evil
and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
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mauricecarver
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Chocolate
line bred Cowboy dogs??? Ronnie Hyde hung papers all
over those things. They look like Norrod
Iron Line OFRN LOLOLOL
GTFOH with that!!!!! LMAO
Midnight Cowboy
Bullyson
Eli black dog
Smiling Jack black dog
Candy black dog( always thought she was a red blacknosed gyp)
its ok if a true red pops up once in a while but not the
average.
but these and that cover dog
are chocolate OFRN blood pouring thru their veins,
Stevie wonder could see that.
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For the most part Iwas thinking the samething.....Red
Midnightcowboy dogs hunh? Scratching my head.Lol
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snootybulldoggs
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For the
most part Iwas thinking the samething.....Red Midnightcowboy dogs hunh? Scratching my head.Lol
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Dear friend, sometimes, the lack of experience in certain
cases can lead to errors. The color Red Nose in the
American Pit Bull Terrier, is
widespread evidence that can come perfectly from the black
color and easier than some people think. lol
I add you three examples for your easy
understanding in this question:
1) Example
From the next Poll, you'll better understand it:
[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents? http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
2) Example
The RED KARINA parents are black colour:
“RED KARINA” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=327021
“RED KARINA” Online Pedigree: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=352023
3) Example
@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER /
BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's
"DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin
color? - The HENRY´s Dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
@ “THE BLACKS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
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Estimado amigo, en algunas ocasiones, la falta
de experiencia en ciertos asuntos puede
llevarnos a
errores. El
color Red Nose en los American
Pit Bull Terrier, está más que demostrado que puede venir
perfectamente del color negro y más fácil de lo que
algunos piensan. Lol
Te adjunto tres ejemplos para tu fácil
entendimiento en este asunto:
1) Ejemplo
Desde la siguiente encuesta (Poll), podrás comprender
mejor:
[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents? http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
2) Ejemplo
Los padres de RED KARINA son de color negro:
“RED KARINA”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=es&criterio=327021
“RED KARINA”
Online Pedigree: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=352023
3) Ejemplo
@ ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a los perros ELI /
CARVER / BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos ellos son de la
familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y este
era de color buckskin? - LOS PERROS
DE HENRY: http://www.fiapbt.net/negro.html
@ “LOS NEGROS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/losnegros.html
Grettings - Saludos
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT – IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you
can acquire in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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“In honour to the truth and the
right, I think we should not close our eyes to allow evil
and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
which we live.”
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villaliberty
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mauricecarver
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jajajajajajajajajajajajaja.....,
son you got to have a few red ones in the pedigree to
get all red choco from a
litter.
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Again with the same subject????? Lol,
lol.
Sometimes, the lack of experience in some fans can lead to big errors. The color Red
Nose in the American Pit Bull Terrier,
is scientifically proven that can come perfectly from the black color and very
much easier than some people think. lol.
From the next Poll, I believe that you'll better
understand it. Good luck, lol:
[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents? : http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593
@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER /
BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's
"DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin
color? - The HENRY´s Dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
@ “THE BLACKS”: http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
Other example
My "RED PIT" (Red Nose) great-grandson and great
great-grandson of MIDNIGHT COWBOY, was the result of the stud of two good blacks dogs
in the early of the year 1994 (Arnold X Lady):
"RED PIT" FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=80447
"RED PIT" Online Pedigree:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=80447
Greetings
Mariano Peinado – FIAPBT
– IADCRO
Spanish professional military of the earth Army between
1981 and 1985, with the graduation of Cape 1st Artillery.
P.S. For more diverse information that you need, you can acquire
in: FIAPBT FORUM: www.facebook.com/pages/FEDERACION-INTERNACIONAL-DEL-AMERICAN-PIT-BULL-TERRIER/271421886132?sk=wall -- www.fiapbt.net -- www.villaliberty.org/information.html
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right, I think we should not close our eyes to allow evil
and injustice BE NORMALIZE within the society in
which we live.”
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villaliberty
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Rednose is recessive, so it
can be in the great-great-great-grandparents ... and
still be passed on, unobtrusively, with no dogs being rednose for multiple generations.
So, just because a dog is black doesn't mean it is an
all-black-dominant dog (AA) ... in fact MOST black dogs
are Aa and are carrying (and pass) the rednose gene.
This means, you can have 2, 3, 4, 5-generations of Aa
black dogs, each having (and passing) the rednose (a) gene, though no
dogs physically express the gene.
The very fact the rednose gene
is recessive means YOU CAN'T SEE IT ... unless
it's on BOTH sides of the pedigree. This means you can
have multiple generations of black (Aa) dogs, that never show a rednose pup, unless one pup's genes
get shuffled to aa, which means it took the recessive rednose gene from both sides,
and thus is a rednose
pup.
Chocolate is a
derivative of black ...
So, yes, two black (Aa) dogs most definitely can throw a
chocolate/rednose pup
In fact, a lot of times, what people "call" a
black dog is actually a seal dog
Jack
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jjdb30 wrote:
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Yes the
gene is there in cowboy any body
who tells you different don't
know anything about genetics. Midnight cowboy is a Aa gene type.
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(In ENGLISH below)
Capítulos relacionados con este tema:
@ HISTORIA de “LOS NEGROS” www.villaliberty.org/losnegros.html
@ VIDEO de “LOS NEGROS”: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afVsbawKASA
@ CARVER'S (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT
COWBOY”: www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy.html
@ ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a
los perros ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos
ellos son de la familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y este
era de color buckskin? - LOS PERROS DE
HENRY: www.fiapbt.net/negro.html
@ VIDEO. LA FUNDACION DE LOS PERROS “ELI”,
BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwICO0MPc78&feature=youtu.be
@ HOMENAJE A MAURICE CARVER EN VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?hl=es&gl=ES&v=M4DnGJAMZDw
@ GENETICA DE LA LEYENDA LLAMADA “MAURICE CARVER” Y
HOMENAJE: www.villaliberty.org/laleyenda.html
@ HOMENAJE A MAURICE
CARVER y también en Facebook
@ FIAPBT ENCUESTA: ¿ES POSIBLE QUE UN PIT BULL NEGRO
COMO MIDNIGHT COWBOY PUEDA
TENER GENES RED NOSE? y también en Facebook
@ MAURICE CARVER VISITA A SUS AMIGOS DE MEXICO EN LOS AÑOS 60: www.fiapbt.net/carverinmexico.html
@ “EL ESCRITO DEL PIT BULL 2014”: http://www.fiapbt.net/thereadoftheyear.htm
@ MUSEO
DE MAURICE CARVER: www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html
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FIAPBT Pedigree www.fiapbtpedigree.com
TRABAJOS QUE PUDIERAN SER DE SU INTERES ACERCA
DEL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
@ LO QUE NADIE A ESCRITO AUN ACERCA DEL
MEJOR APBT DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS. La
verdadera historia de TUDOR´S “DIBO”: www.fiapbt.net/historiadibo.html
@
¿LINEAS DE SANGRE? LOS “OLD FAMILY RED
NOSE” (OFRN): www.fiapbt.net/lineassangre.html
@ DIFERENCIAS ENTRE
EL APBT Y SUS DOS DERIVACIONES DE HOY EN DIA, EL AST Y EL SBT: www.fiapbt.net/diferencias.html
@ ORIGENES
DEL
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/origenes.html
@ EL CARACTER DEL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/caracter.html
@ ESTUDIO GENETICO Y GRAFICO DE LOS MEJORES PIT BULL DE TODOS LOS
TIEMPOS: www.facebook.com/notes/federacion-internacional-del-american-pit-bull-terrier/estudio-genetico-y-grafico-de-los-mejores-pit-bull-de-todos-los-tiempos/10150424284565089
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER CON PEDIGREE ¿SI O NO?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreesi.html
www.fiapbt.net/dibo.html
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: TUDORS “DIBO”
Online Pedigree: TUDOR´S “DIBO”
ENGLISH
The American Pit Bull Terrier
Online Pedigree is a
study or informative mode,
it is not the Official Pedigree. Caution
with the swindlers!!!
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FIAPBT FIAPBT
WORKS THAT MAY BE WOULD BE OF YOUR
INTEREST ABOUT THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
@ GENETIC OF THE LEGEND TO
CALLED “MAURICE CARVER” AND TRIBUTE: www.villaliberty.org/legend.html
@ TRIBUTE TO MAURICE CARVER IN VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?hl=es&gl=ES&v=M4DnGJAMZDw
@ MAURICE CARVER TRIBUTE and also in Facebook
@ FIAPBT POLL: IS POSSIBLE THAT IN A BLACK PIT BULL LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY CAN HAVE GENES RED NOSE? and also in Facebook
@ MAURICE
CARVER VISIT TO HIS FRIENDS FROM MEXICO IN THE 60S: www.fiapbt.net/carverinmexico.html
@ “THE
PIT BULL READ 2014”: http://www.fiapbt.net/thereadoftheyear.htm
@ MAURICE CARVER MUSEUM: www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html
@ BLOODLINES? THE “OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (OFRN):
www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html
@ DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE AMERICAN PIT BULL
TERRIER AND ITS DERIVATIONS TODAY, THE AST AND THE SBT: www.fiapbt.net/ingles16.html
@ THE AMERICAN
PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: www.fiapbt.net/origins.html
@ THE
CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/character.html
@ GENETIC AND
GRAPH STUDY OF THE BESTS APBT OF ALL THE TIMES: http://www.facebook.com/notes/federacion-internacional-del-american-pit-bull-terrier/genetic-and-graph-study-of-the-bests-pit-bull-of-all-the-times/10150424806175089
@ WHAT NOBODY HAS WRITED ABOUT THE
BEST APBT OF ALL TIMES, TUDOR´S “DIBO”The true history about Tudor´s “Dibo”: http://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiapbt.net%2Fhistoriadibo.html&act=url (This is a literal translation by the Internet
translator, sorry)
(Original report in Spanish: www.fiapbt.net/historiadibo.html )
@ “THE BLACKS” HISTORY: www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
@ “THE BLACKS” VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afVsbawKASA
@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being
that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color?
- The HENRY´s
Dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html
@ VIDEO. THE ELI
DOGS FUNDATION, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND: http://youtu.be/rwICO0MPc78
@ CARVER'S (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”: http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy..html
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html
@ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE
BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm
@ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE:
http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html
@ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER BEGINNINGS IN THE CINEMA: http://www.fiapbt.net/pitbullcine2.html
@ MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ABOUT THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.villaliberty.org/information.html
www.fiapbt.net/dibo.html
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: TUDORS “DIBO”
Online Pedigree: TUDOR´S
“DIBO”
