BLOODLINES?
By Mariano Peinado. (En ESPAÑOL)
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“Bloodlines” as such do not exist in the breed dog
American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or PIT BULL), nor either in other animal species. When some fans to this breed dog talk about “bloodlines”, the correct
thing to talk with property and zootechnical rigor,
would be that they spoke about the different genetic ramifications. No dog, no breeder or no kennels can
determine bloodlines, because they do not exist, which yes can determine are
different genetic ramifications, For example; The genetic ramification of the
APBT called “Bullyson”, or the APBT called “Bolio”, or
the breeder called “Pat Patrick”, or the genetic
ramification of Villa Liberty
kennels, etc.
“Tudor Dibo” (Mr. Ronnie), Importation since Chicago. Bloodline or
ramification genetic 100% from CARVER through
the wonderful combinations realised by Maurice Carver between CARVER'S (HYDE´S) SATCH X CARVER'S (HYDE´S) BLOODY SUNDAY = CARVER'S IRONHEAD X WALLING'S BULLYSON Best to best.
So for a American Pit Bull Terrier, or a breeder, or a
kennels, forms their respective genetic ramifications, evidently must be
introduced in the breed and breeding during enough years, thus to consolidate
its respective genetic ramifications, on the basis of the fixation of genotypes characters
wished by the breeder. When some breeder selects in his breeding of the APBT on
the basis of the fixation of phenotypes characters, this in our breed APBT is something
TERRIBLE, since the breed in this way is degenerated and work in the breeding
in this way is realised by two types of “people”, those that do not know about
the APBT and by the peddlers.
“Red Dibo”, Importation since Chicago. Bloodline or ramification genetic 100% of CARVER through the wonderful
combinations realised between (CARVER'S) DAVIS´MIDNIGHT COWBOY X HAND'S CANDY = Best to best.
When the fans talk about the “Mexican bloodline”, to
put another example, it´s something
absurd in two ways, first by the one of the line and second so that a American
Pit Bull Terrier had “Mexican” genetic ramification, evidently it would have to
own in his ascendant genealogical tree some generations of APBT been born in
Mexico and by all means to have been born in Mexico the animal in question. The
different genetic ramifications that we found in the APBT when we make
reference to the country, so many exist as countries it has, and this type of
ramifications is not assessable absolutely, since to value more one or the
other genetic ramification, everything it is going to depend on the positive
results towards the breed that obtain in the works and sports like individuals
APBT, without considering the country where they have been born because is not
important and because all APBT are of the same breed dog, but we will consider
their ancestors, the breeder or the kennel where were come, for whom want to continue
with that genetic ramification that them liked so
much can do it without problems.
“BOUDREAUX” (Bullyson), Importation since Georgia, USA. Bloodline
or ramification genetic 100% of BOUDREAUX, through the wonderful combinations realised between
BOUDREAUX' SKULL X BOUDREAUX' SCREAM = Coming from CARVER dogs. Best to best.
“Patches” is the fusion result
between CARVER
blood X RED PIT, offering splendid
results like reproducer and in the work – sports. VIDEO “PATCHES”.
“OLD FAMILY RED
NOSE” (OFRN)
FERGUSON'S CENTIPEDE, an excellent
representative of the OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (“OFRN”)
Besides already commented, is possible to emphasize another genetic
ramification that no line, that nothing has in comun with
previously exposed, neither breeders, nor parents or family of the APBT, nor
kennels, I talk about the American Pit Bull Terrier denominated OLD FAMILY RED
NOSE” (“OFRN”).
Before nothing, I wanted to inform about the term “Old
Family Red Nose”. In the XIX century,
existed in the Counties of Kerry and Cork, Ireland, a family
group of American Pit Bull Terrier somewhat peculiar, since they owned five
typical characteristics of pigmentation that differentiated to them from the
rest of APBT, which were; 1º- Mantle brown color in
its different tonalities, admitting itself the white color,
2º- The nose red, rosaceous or colour meat, 3º- The rosaceous lips, 4º- Colour
white, brown or rosaceous for the nails, 5º- The eyes amber colour.
“RED PIT” is a “RED NOSE”
one,
“RED PIT” comes from a fusion genetic of the best CARVER dogs X Tudor,
Mayfield dogs, etc. with a 75% CARVER dogs in its
blood. “RED PIT” was a great
reproducer. Some "Red Pit” children all them are RED NOSE dogs,
non important characteristic in this breed dog.
APBT with that five
characteristics of pigmentation, were very appreciated by some fans, since in
the work they were those that better results had contributed to them, after to
have used previously other type of dogs not APBT. By this, some breeders they
concentrated in realising a consanguineous breeding to continue reproducing
this type of APBT, because the APBT “Red Nose” that are those that reunites
these five concrete characteristics of pigmentation, own recessive genes, that
means, that if you cross a “Red Nose” with another APBT no “Red Nose”, always
predominated the genes of the APBT that is not “Red Nose” and the descendants
the majority would not be “Red Nose” or “Old Family Red
Nose” (OFRN). Nevertheless, two APBT that
are not “Red Nose”, they can leave Red Nose pups, since this gene of the “Red
Nose” is within the genes of this breed dog, the APBT.
Those breeders of the 1850, were quite
preservative and cautious in the results of their breeding, keeping the pedigríes from their APBT in secret, where nobody dared to
put in doubt its trustworthiness, since the word and the honour of the breeder
were impregnated in this pedigrees.
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes
or No?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html
In any case, in the present time continuous with
enough height the Old Family Red Nose
(OFRN) and by tradition, between
the fans continuous being called them OFRN
or its abbreviation of “Red Nose”,
something that I see correct, but is necessary to remember that the fundamental
thing in the breeding of the APBT of any blood, genetics or strains, is to
select by heart or character of the animal in positive way and NEVER by its aesthetic or coloration. I believe that is important to be honest and to inform
agreed to the reality of the history of the breed and the OFRN and not deceive
with false expectations to the fans, for to sell more and better APBT OFRN (Red
Nose), as I believe that is happening in some kennels, that inform to the
novices that begin in the breed nonagreed to the
reality and yes in his own benefit.
“Red Creb” is a “RED NOSE” one, which is a genetic fusion from “TOP SECRET” X “RED PIT”. In the pictures when it had only one year of
age.
Some swindlers and peddlers announcing false stories
on the OFRN, especially to the novices in the breed, arguing that the OFRN are
the APBT of better quality than exist. These swindlers, disguise themselves as
if they were true lovers of the breed, when in fact they are “preaching” whose
God is the money, inventing false
stories and realising the strategies necessary to deceive just arrived at the
breed and to benefit his own particular business, profiting to their coast and
cost of the own breed. Any more of these false stories are for example, to
affirm that the genetics of Old Family
Red Nose (OFRN) was created in Ireland by year 1850 and named in that
moment as Old Family Reds, or to say
that later the OFRN practically were
extinguished and later were rescued for their conservation by Bob Wallace or
other breeders. Another false story, is when some breeders proclaimed themself in the present time, the exclusive feature to own
to pure Old Family Red Nose blood.
Some “fraudulent breeders”, invent their own “registries” to sell their own
“pedigrees”, and by all means that are not Officials (the ONLY National and International Officials
pedigrees are the ADBA pedigrees),
which do not have no type of Trustworthiness, Officiality
nor Credibility, since those false “registries” are another particular business
of many swindlers. The ADBA, is the ONLY
Institution Internationally recognized like the Canine Mother of the American Pit Bull Terrier for the International APBT Federation (FIAPBT), so that besides the activities in positive that
realise for the APBT, also they offer to the fans a way very controlled,
reliable and with much Zootechnical rigor, the ONLY International Official Pedigree from
APBT.
Nowadays, the OFRN by all means that continue
existing outside those kennels and in the future also will be between us, while
the own breed exist the OFRN will
exist within of the breed dog APBT, since
its genes are component and part from the breed, is ridiculous to think the
opposite. Proof of it, is that two dogs
that are not OFRN when reproducing both, they can leave APBT OFRN. This
genetic, blood or strain of APBT, the OFRN, by TRADITION was called them and at present also continuous called them the dogs of the Old Family
Red Nose (OFRN), remembering that Old
Family of APBT in those years named Old
Family Reds around the 1850 of the counties of Kerry and Cork in Ireland. This
last one does not mean, that the Old
Family Reds were originated with that group Old Family of Pit Bulls in Ireland in 1850, nor that Lightner, nor Mc Coy, nor Bob Hemphill, nor Bob Wallace,
nor so many others, are the creators of the OFRN blood 70 years later, because they were at his time interested
in this blood and reproduced his dogs by the red colour, far from it, but it
caused that the APBT with those five characteristics of pigmentation became
more popular between the fans, is simply that.
For a better understanding of the terms Old Family Red Nose (OFRN) and
Red Nose, I recommend reading the following report;
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Since the origins of the breed dog APBT, the Old Family Red Nose (OFRN) already existed
like genetic part of the breed, but the OFRN of those years was not denominated
with this term to them, term that according to Bob Hemphill it began to use Dan Mc Coy around the year 1920. By this way, is
not legitimate that nobody attributed itself nor will attribute to the blood of
the Old Family Red Nose like his property own nor of somebody in particular, since
this blood is only of an owner, and the owner is the own breed dog American Pit
Bull Terrier and its fans. It is as if we wanted to give to a person or a
kennel the creation of the breed APBT. That information, was lost at night of
the past times and is exactly just like it happens with the origins of the
majority of the rest of old breeds, that are not known their creators either. At the most old is
the breed dog, like is the case of the APBT, less are the possibilities of
knowing who created it.
I do not believe in the “preachers” who defend their
own business deceiving and yes I believe in the fans who defend to the breed
dog American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or Pit Bull), will be OFRN or any other
blood or color. In the FIAPBT we smell these “preaching”,
swindlers and peddlers since long distance. When to these “preachers” the truth
is said to them in front, unmasking his false stories that use to profit at the
cost of just arrived at the breed, then they are made victims moving to the
defensive, saying that many fans to the APBT despise and discriminate against
the OFRN. Also they say, that is necessary to create independent clubs to
defend and to promote to the OFRN. This last one responds, to his desire to
defend and to promote his own business around
the OFRN. The reason to separate or to divide to the fans of the APBT on the
part of these “preachers”, is simple to understand, it treats simply to move
away to all the fans who are possible of the ADBA and its Official Pedigree,
since each fan who moves away of the ADBA is a fan that gains his “registry of
pedigree” and his particular business, offering to the deceived fans of the
APBT his own “registries”, like the alternative to defend to the OFRN.
This same one, also happens with other “lovers” of the
breed, who invent “registries of pedigrees” of the APBT and that argues false
stories to the fans, similars to the OFRN; “SDR”. Those people who develop by their own decision
“registries of pedigríes” of the breed dog APBT, do
not have any type of Trustworthiness nor Officiality
nor Credibility for the FIAPBT nor any other APBT Institution, that shows to a minimum of seriousness
and professionalism.
A good and true lover of the breed dog APBT, loves the
breed in his original and pure state and defends it until the end, be it of any colour, genetics, blood or strain, the
other are only false stories to deceive the novices and instead of TO UNITE to the liking, they wish TO DIVIDE IT with these histories. Consequently to this is generated damage and
weakness to the breed and considering the bad times that runs for the breed
with the unjust Laws that want to extinguish it, of course these “preachers”
are not making none favour nor helping to defend the breed, to be dividing to
the fans by different ways. The money is
the money and is the justification more than sufficient for some
“preachers”, since for them the money is over everything and all. Of all is
known that in the “Union is the Force” not
only defend to a breed, also to promote it and to inform suitably on it. In the
FIAPBT, we have had the misfortune to know many classes of “preachers”, this is
not new for us.
Retaking the subject to say, that the OFRN were always
a branch or strain genetic inside of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier,
in the present time they continue being it and in the future also they would
continue being it. Despite, clarify that like other bloods, genetic ramifications or strains of the APBT, is not advisable to select to the APBT of bigger stature, since
what we would obtain are APBT bigger stature, we would obtain too big pure
APBT, that would turn to them into heavy dogs (Molosoides)
and although that group of APBT “Molosoides” did not
have crossings with other canine race, simply by their excess of size and
weight would get tired quickly, at the time of realising any type of prolonged
work that required a good resistance, whereby the essence of the breed dog
purity is lost.
World CH Villa Liberty´s “Red Pit II” is a “RED NOSE”,
non important characteristic in this breed dog. World CH “Red Pit II” is at present the
only Champion of the World existing in the breed dog APBT, concretely in the
modality of MarathonPit. This modality, the MarathonPit, until the moment is the only modality of Work - Sport in this breed dog, that contemplates
the Championship of the World. World
CH “Red Pit II” is a “Red Nose”
one, with bloodline or ramification genetic from “Red Pit”. http://www.fiapbt.net/JJ.OO..html
The pure, original and genuine American Pit Bull
Terrier, difference of any other breed dog indeed by its resistance in the hard
work or hard sport by very hard that are the circumstances for their
accomplishment and this, is facilitated by a functional standard. Therefore, I
consider that if the APBT lost these qualities and virtues (resistance among
others) as a result of enlarging their size, those units of APBT of bigger size
of the normal thing are of the OFRN or any other ramifications genetics,
although they were pure APBT, under my
own point of view no longer would be pure APBT, since a APBT without air or resistance in the work
or sports is completely atypical in the pure breed, being the endurance
something fundamental to fix to the selection of breeding by the responsible
breeders that really love the APBT, conserving its purity and that is directed
of all the ways, in not to enlarge to its units being used one good guide to
us, which would be the functional
standard of the APBT (ADBA or FIAPBT) since a APBT at the moment that
loses the air or the resistance, stop the work that is realising in that moment
by much game that it own.
“Red Pit 3”. Is a “RED NOSE”
“Red
Pit 3”, is a “Red Nose” with bloodline or ramification genetic Red Pit.
When a denominated dog called “APBT” of 40 or 50 kg
(90 Libras), can carry out an intense and prolonged work like a APBT of 20 kg
(39 Libras), then seems to me very well to enlarge and to turn into Moloso to the APBT, meanwhile NEVER. The breeding selection of the breeder, is a very
good tool to select APBT within the standard of the APBT (Functional and
agile), not reproducing bigger APBT excessively and far from it Molosides.
In many occasions which happens in the
eyes of the novice, always will be more valued a mixed dog that calling “APBT”
with big dimensions and big heads Molosoide type,
that other smaller and pure or authentic APBT, that is functional, original and
genuine. The pure and original APBT being smaller, impresses less, therefore
less it is valued and less is sold in the eyes of the inexpert novice. This
last many “breeders” opportunistic (peddlers) know it very well, transforming
his dogs in accordance with the demand of the buyers inexperienced. The
“breeders” opportunistic take and use another races of dog strong and big (Argentine Bulldog, American Bulldog, Presa Canary, American Staffordshire Terrier, etc., or the
called Bullies that are not APBT),
to enlarge its racially mixed dogs, that later they will call big APBT for to
sell them wonderfully to the novices in the breed.
Under my point of view, would not be advisable to
select in the breeding exemplary of APBT of more than 27 kg (60 Libras), for
this way not turning to the APBT in a big and slow dog or Molosoide.
In addition, avoiding the enlargement of APBT, we will avoid that these undergo
shutdowns of the heart when realising intense and prolonged efforts when
developing hard works or hard sports, in which its body no longer can support
for be Molosoide, but its heart and mind wish to
realise it without know its dangerous limitations.
Like example to this last to say, that the best APBT
of all times according to my point of view, was TUDOR´S “DIBO” and the
weight of this APBT was 39 L. The best
APBT known of the history, were functional, agile and
small dogs.
In
my opinion particular and for finish it, I consider that the good quality that
had the Pit
Bulls Old Family Reds of year 1850 and that were grouped in the Kerry and Cork Counties in Ireland and latter in USA named OFRN or RED NOSE, did not have to its Red Nose pigmentation, was simply so
that they were pure or authentic Pit Bulls and this were the reason of their
better quality, in comparison to the dogs of other breeds or mixed dogs that
they owned previously. Therefore, the breeders of these two Irish Counties
dedicated to the selection of their breeding on the basis of the pigmentation Red Nose, through the consanguineous
breeding, thinking that the quality of its dogs was due to its pigmentation and
not so that they were pure Pit Bulls.
In
conclusion, the APBT OFRN or Red Nose are APBT of so good quality as
any other APBT of any other ramifications genetics, bleeds or strain, nor better nor worse. Independently to the
ramification genetic or blood where the APBT come, the main thing is that
they are of pure breed, without mestizations by means. Also it is fundamental, that the
pure APBT be possessors of the UNIQUE
or ONLY International Official Pedigree, the ADBA pedigree, unique or only
document that Certificate the purity breed like American Pit Bull Terrier. The
rest of existing registries that are not ADBA, does not have Official validity nor
credibility, not offers guarantees to the FIAPBT neither to the veteran
dogman in this breed dog, by something
will be it.
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WORKS
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AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
@ GENETIC OF THE LEGEND TO CALLED “MAURICE CARVER” AND TRIBUTE: www.villaliberty.org/legend.html
@ TRIBUTE TO MAURICE CARVER IN VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?hl=es&gl=ES&v=M4DnGJAMZDw
@ MAURICE CARVER MUSEUM: www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html
@ BLOODLINES? THE “OLD FAMILY
RED NOSE” (OFRN): www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html
@ DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER AND ITS DERIVATIONS TODAY, THE AST
AND THE SBT: www.fiapbt.net/ingles16.html
@ THE AMERICAN
PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: www.fiapbt.net/origins.html
@ THE CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN
PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/character.html
@ GENETIC AND GRAPH STUDY OF THE BESTS APBT OF ALL THE TIMES: http://www.facebook.com/notes/federacion-internacional-del-american-pit-bull-terrier/genetic-and-graph-study-of-the-bests-pit-bull-of-all-the-times/10150424806175089
@ WHAT
NOBODY HAS WRITED ABOUT THE BEST APBT OF ALL TIMES, TUDOR´S “DIBO”The true
history about Tudor´s “Dibo”: http://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiapbt.net%2Fhistoriadibo.html&act=url (This is a literal translation by the Internet
translator, sorry)
(Original report
in Spanish: www.fiapbt.net/historiadibo.html )
@ “THE BLACKS” HISTORY: www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
@ “THE
BLACKS” VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afVsbawKASA
@ CARVER'S
(DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT
COWBOY”: http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy..html
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes
or No?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html
@
THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm
@
APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html
@ THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER BEGINNINGS IN THE CINEMA: http://www.fiapbt.net/pitbullcine2.html
@ MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.villaliberty.org/information.html
