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MAYBE

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NO

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:06 pm

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ARE POSSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY? - ¿SON POSIBLE GENES RED NOSE EN UN APBT NEGRO COMO MIDNIGHT COWBOY?

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snootybulldoggs wrote:

For the most part Iwas thinking the samething.....Red Midnightcowboy dogs hunh? Scratching my head.Lol



Dear friend, sometimes, the lack of experience in certain cases can lead to errors. The color Red Nose in the American Pit Bull Terrier, is widespread evidence that can come perfectly from the black color and easier than some people think. lol

I add you three examples for your easy understanding in this question:

1) Example

From the next Poll, you'll better understand it:

[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents?
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593

2) Example

The RED KARINA parents are black colour:

RED KARINA” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=327021

RED KARINA” Online Pedigree: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=352023

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3) Example

@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs:
http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html

@ “THE BLACKS”:
http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html

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Estimado amigo, en algunas ocasiones, la falta de experiencia en ciertos asuntos puede llevarnos a errores. El color Red Nose en los American Pit Bull Terrier, está más que demostrado que puede venir perfectamente del color negro y más fácil de lo que algunos piensan. Lol

Te adjunto tres ejemplos para tu fácil entendimiento en este asunto:

1) Ejemplo

Desde la siguiente encuesta (Poll), podrás comprender mejor:

[ Poll ] chocolate from two black nose parents?
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2) Ejemplo

Los padres de RED KARINA son de color negro:

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3) Ejemplo

@ ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a los perros ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos ellos son de la familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y este era de color buckskin? - LOS PERROS DE HENRY:
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@ “LOS NEGROS”:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:23 am

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I'll I know is chocolate is a recessive of black. Not red.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:38 am

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Her grandsire has a red nose so she doesnt count

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:43 pm

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You have a very accurate ped marco. The only thing you need to fix is Williams Cyclone 2xw is the litter mate brother to Ferguson ch centipede. Yes the gene is there in cowboy any body who tells you different don't know anything about genetics. Midnight cowboy is a Aa gene type.


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mauricecarver wrote:


jajajajajajajajajajajajaja....., son you got to have a few red ones in the pedigree to get all red choco from a litter.



Again with the same subject????? Lol, lol.

Sometimes,
the lack of experience in some fans can lead to big errors. The color Red Nose in the American Pit Bull Terrier, is scientifically proven that can come perfectly from the black color and very much easier than some people think. lol.

From the next Poll, I believe that you'll better understand it. Good luck, lol:

[ Poll ]
chocolate from two black nose parents? : http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=249593

@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs:
http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html

@ “THE BLACKS”:
http://www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html

Other example

My "
RED PIT" (Red Nose) great-grandson and great great-grandson of MIDNIGHT COWBOY, was the result of the stud of two good blacks dogs in the early of the year 1994 (Arnold X Lady):

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RED PIT" FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=80447

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jjdb30 wrote:

Yes the gene is there in cowboy any body who tells you different don't know anything about genetics. Midnight cowboy is a Aa gene type.



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Rednose is recessive, so it can be in the great-great-great-grandparents ... and still be passed on, unobtrusively, with no dogs being rednose for multiple generations.

So, just because a dog is black doesn't mean it is an all-black-dominant dog (AA) ... in fact MOST black dogs are Aa and are carrying (and pass) the rednose gene.

This means, you can have 2, 3, 4, 5-generations of Aa black dogs, each having (and passing) the rednose (a) gene, though no dogs physically express the gene.

The very fact the rednose gene is recessive means YOU CAN'T SEE IT ... unless it's on BOTH sides of the pedigree. This means you can have multiple generations of black (Aa) dogs, that never show a rednose pup, unless one pup's genes get shuffled to aa, which means it took the recessive rednose gene from both sides, and thus is a rednose pup.

Chocolate is a derivative of black ...

So, yes, two black (Aa) dogs most definitely can throw a chocolate/rednose pup
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In fact, a lot of times, what people "call" a black dog is actually a seal dog
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I've never seen a red cowboy dog.......

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Gringo wrote:

I've never seen a red cowboy dog.......



Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.

If someone does not see something specific, does not mean it does not exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be hidden to the public and be a secret for the breeder, how a few breeders have recognized with the pass of time...

For me, the color is not important. Me in particular, in my breeding I have never sought, nor set nor fix characters by color or phenotype. For me the main and most important in the animal, is it a good dog in its various aspects regardless of color or physical structure posses, since to fix the characters of the breeding alone for the phenotype of animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But that is another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.

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Gringo wrote:

I've never seen a red cowboy dog.......

These Geneticists in here believe different All I know is We've been breeding the Thurmond Rocky II strain for 20+ and even bred to buckskin snooty and boomerang hell a red fawn chinaman males always BLACK!!!!! Now our male bred to those same color female will throw a couple in mom's Honor.....Now living in a world Grand Designed to change anything is possible and it shole makes me scratch my head!!!! You Gentlemen Keep'em HONEST!!!!


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One of the secrets best kept by the few breeders who knew in that time like Mr. Jerry Clemmons and others, was that if you breed a black family from English dogs, if any of their litters come out a puppy Red Nose, save it the best possible in your yard without hesitation, for use it like reproducer in your American Pit Bull Terrier family for being a stud dog with all guarantees of success in your breeding plan. This circumstance could be it has something to do with all this subject, I do not know...

 



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Uno de los secretos mejor guardados por los pocos criadores de la época que lo conocían como fue Mr. Jerry Clemmons y otros, consistía en que si criabas una familia de negros provenientes de perros ingleses, si en alguna de sus camadas saliera un cachorro Red Nose lo guardaras lo mejor posible en tu yarda sin dudarlo, para utilizarlo como reproductor en tu familia de American Pit Bull Terrier por tratarse de un semental prácticamente con todas las garantías de éxito en tu plan de crianza. Esta circunstancia pudiera ser que tenga algo que ver en todo este asunto, no lo se...

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Lets not forget there is some carver in that pup and we all know carver and his breeding tactics back then......LOL I checked yes, If there is a red gen anywhere in that ped, it is possible to throw one here and there....And That would be what you call a throw back.....for sure

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Lets not forget there is some carver in that pup and we all know carver and his breeding tactics back then......LOL I checked yes, If there is a red gen anywhere in that ped, it is possible to throw one here and there....And That would be what you call a throw back.....for sure



Dear friend, you say, That
we all know carver and his breeding tactics back then? Lol, I suggest to you, best speak for yourself and not on the lips of everyone else. I think you are like most who claim to know about Carver and after it again and again demonstrated that they knew nothing at all...

Your afirmation against Carver is more of the same, hypotheses, assumptions and hypotheses, always in the same way for a few. That if I believe, that if I would swear, that if rumors, that if such dog is like another and like is similar already must has to be its father, blah blah blah. The same old story but with different words, that is, more of the same since Carver died in 1979 until nowadays and his death was exploited by a few speaking lies to benefit their businesses of sell dogs.

Half-truths??? It does not take very intelligent to observe it. The Half-truths are worst that the full lies.

In the next link starting to read from the chapter entitled "HENRY THE DOGS" (pag 1), you can see more information about a few unjust lies about Carver and his dogs:
http://www.fiapbt.net/thereadoftheyear.htm or http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=236707

You are talking subjects that are different to this thread or Poll. Please, not exit the main thread of the Poll. Thank you very much.

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1) I spoke to ole school dog men that seen that line of dog, and never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any other color than what was BEHIND them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose hound UNLESS it was ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like the family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound....
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1) I spoke to ole school dog men that seen that line of dog, and never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any other color than what was BEHIND them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose hound UNLESS it was ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like the family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound.... JMO



Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.

If someone does not see something specific, does not mean it does not exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be hidden to the public and be a secret for the breeder, how a few breeders have recognized with the pass of time...

For me, color is not important. For me the main and most important in the animal, is it a good dog in its various aspects regardless of color or physical structure posses, since to fix the characters of the breeding alone for the phenotype of animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But that is another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.

I come to remember the subject main thread of the Poll and it is: ARE POSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY?.

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One of the secrets best kept by the few breeders who knew in that time like Mr. Jerry Clemmons and others, was that if you breed a black family from English dogs, if any of their litters come out a puppy Red Nose, save it the best possible in your yard without hesitation, for use it like reproducer in your American Pit Bull Terrier family for being a stud dog with all guarantees of success in your breeding plan. This circumstance could be it has something to do with all this subject, I do not know...

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Uno de los secretos mejor guardados por los pocos criadores de la época que lo conocían como fue Mr. Jerry Clemmons y otros, consistía en que si criabas una familia de negros provenientes de perros ingleses, si en alguna de sus camadas saliera un cachorro Red Nose lo guardaras lo mejor posible en tu yarda sin dudarlo, para utilizarlo como reproductor en tu familia de American Pit Bull Terrier por tratarse de un semental prácticamente con todas las garantías de éxito en tu plan de crianza. Esta circunstancia pudiera ser que tenga algo que ver en todo este asunto, no lo se...

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1) I spoke to ole school dog men that seen that line of dog, and never seen a TRUE BRED hound display any other color than what was BEHIND them.... NOT ONE chocolate/red/red nose hound UNLESS it was ADDED...
2) At the end of the day, if you are line breeding/inbreeding on a particular hound, why would you want something that looks nothing like the family of dogs it should represent?????
I for one would not be feeding a rednose ELI hound.... JMO



Dear friend, thank you for your opinion.

If someone does not see something specific, does not mean it does not exist. Perhaps the issue of RED NOSE could be hidden to the public and be a secret for the breeder, how a few breeders have recognized with the pass of time...

For me, color is not important. For me the main and most important in the animal, is it a good dog in its various aspects regardless of color or physical structure posses, since to fix the characters of the breeding alone for the phenotype of animals, in my opinion is a big mistake. But that is another issue that is irrelevant in this topic.

I come to remember the subject main thread of the Poll and it is: ARE POSIBLE GENES REDNOSE IN BLACK DOG LIKE MIDNIGHT COWBOY?.

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color is only important in association with genetics....... you expect heavy inbreeding to lock into a type and look....behavior too...style,traits....
Again....heavy Eli, I expect a lot...but not chocolate/red nose hounds.....
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color is only important in association with genetics....... you expect heavy inbreeding to lock into a type and look....behavior too...style,traits....
Again....heavy Eli, I expect a lot...but not chocolate/red nose hounds..... JMO



I am agree, the color can sometimes help you be an indicator or guide in your breeding plan. Thank you.

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Me and my partners were having a heated discussion the other day and they said i didnt know shit because i hadnt bred enuff animals and they have (so fuck what science has to say). But this is the question can two black nose dogs FROM black nose parents have chocolate (or liver) dogs with a "red" nose? I know two black nose dogs can have chocolate dogs if one of THEIR parents are chocolate so thats not in debate

 

 

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Beautiful pups and bred very nice! Good luck with them!



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We're does the red and chocalet red noses come from?

 

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We're does the red and chocalet red noses come from?



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Although the parents of the puppies "COWBOY 4" and "LADY CARVER 2" are the colour black, inside its genetics own Red Nose genes, being this the reason why Red Nose puppies have come out even being its dads of colour black .
This situation usually happens sometimes with dogs that are well laden blood HENRY X DIBO. This same issue already came me up with my litter of my RED PIT in 1994.

This same circumstance, get dogs Red Nose of parents with origin of Blacks and blood HENRY X DIBO, a few of the best breeders of all time kept it in SECRET a long time, since the results obtained from those Red Nose in reproduction, them can not obtain it otherwise and those old timers not want that other breeders will learn it.

Info: Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs
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Aunque los papás de los cachorros “COWBOY 4” y “LADY CARVER 2” son de color negro, en el interior de su genética poseen genes Red Nose, siendo esta la razón del porque han salidos cachorros Red Nose aun siendo los papás de color negro.
Esta circunstancia suele ocurrir en algunas ocasiones con los perros que están bien cargados de la sangre HENRY X DIBO. Esto mismo ya me ocurrió con la camada de mi RED PIT en el año 1994.

Esta misma circunstancia, la de obtener perros Red Nose de padres con procedencia de Los negros y de la sangre HENRY X DIBO, unos pocos de los mejores criadores de todos los tiempos lo mantuvieron en SECRETO durante mucho tiempo, ya que los resultados que obtenían de aquellos Red Nose en la reproducción, no lo conseguían de otra manera y no deseaban que otros criadores lo aprendieran.

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Chocolate line bred Cowboy dogs??? Ronnie Hyde hung papers all over those things. They look like Norrod Iron Line OFRN LOLOLOL

GTFOH with that!!!!! LMAO


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its ok if a true red pops up once in a while but not the average.

but these and that cover dog are chocolate OFRN blood pouring thru their veins, Stevie wonder could see that.


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Red, red nose. And a chocolate liver nose?. R gang had only one red red nose on his yard and that was his sons dog

 

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What's wrong with red nose (chocolate) dogs come from black dogs??

 

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Hey, beautiful pups. Both look happy and well taken care of. That's more important than the ped!!

Congrats friend keep up the good work..!

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Answer to monkey and mauricecarver:

I appreciate your opinions but I do not agree at all.

My answer to your opinions, you can see very well explained inside the report: Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs
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Agradezco su opinión aunque no estoy de acuerdo en absoluto.

Mí contestación a sus opiniones, la pueden ver muy bien explicadas dentro del reportaje: ¿De dónde le viene el color NEGRO a los perros ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX, siendo que todos ellos son de la familia de Tudor´s “DIBO” y este era de color buckskin? - LOS PERROS DE HENRY http://www.fiapbt.net/negro.html

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Hey, beautiful pups. Both look happy and well taken care of. That's more important than the ped!!

Congrats friend keep up the good work..!

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Good dogs Mariano... Enhorabuena!!!!!



Thank you very much Juan Miguel for your kind words, your words to me are very important because you yes know very well my dogs and you yes know very well from where they come
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What's wrong with red nose (chocolate) dogs come from black dogs??



There is nothing wrong with the Red Nose dogs coming from black dogs, I think that you already know very well what happens when sometimes some people coming talking gossip...

Take care my friend,

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No hay nada erróneo con los perros Red Nose que vienen de perros negros, creo que tu ya sabes bien lo que ocurre cuando en algunas ocasiones algunos vienen hablando chismes ...

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Chocolate line bred Cowboy dogs??? Ronnie Hyde hung papers all over those things. They look like Norrod Iron Line OFRN LOLOLOL

GTFOH with that!!!!! LMAO


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its ok if a true red pops up once in a while but not the average.

but these and that cover dog are chocolate OFRN blood pouring thru their veins, Stevie wonder could see that.



lmao well that can't be as much hating this guy does on the registry I.M. supports.
I'm surprise he knows anything about OFRN or pit dogs.
He is just a pet owner.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:29 am

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Danger wrote:

lmao well that can't be as much hating this guy does on the registry I.M. supports.
I'm surprise he knows anything about OFRN or pit dogs. He is just a pet owner.

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Lol.

On several occasions the envy and the truth is hard and painful. For some special reason will be, Right? This usually happens when something false and wrong has been done…

1 @ BLOODLINES? THE “OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (
OFRN): www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html

2 @ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿YES or NO?:
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3 @ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG:
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4 @ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE:
www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html

I believe that everyone creates and runs their own destiny, based on their attitude and on the DECISIONS that is taking every day in their life... Good luck!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:32 am

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MAXXKENNELS wrote:

Would you be willing to sell one of those and if so how much



Dear friend,

I am very thankful to you for to contact with us and for your interest in my work and my dogs.

For the puppie security, I don´t send puppies out Spain, sorry. We do not ship puppies outside Spain because if in an unfortunate time for the puppy during their trip, can be very serious or even fatal. If this possibility occurred with the puppy traveling with its owner would be safe without problems. Then if you are interesting in the puppie, you must to pick up the puppie in Villa Liberty kennels, the travel is easy to do. We are located in Madrid, Spain and the name of the International airport of Madrid is "Barajas". Villa Liberty kennels is located near of "Barajas".

VILLA LIBERTY rejected those clients, who considers non responsible at the time of becoming position of the life for an animal. Our puppies will not be sold for illegal intentions.

Grettings and thank you,

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:53 am

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